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Maria The Princess · Apr 11, 2006, 02:04 PM // 14:04

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Originally Posted by Juicey Shake

solo FoW
solo ice imps
solo UW

rangers rock, just, you know.. by yourself, all explorer - 'I kill creatures before they know I've attacked them' types, us rangers are...

well i got fed up of soloing imps after 5 runs, and just dont see how a ranger can solo UW.... i know about Fow (never tried mainly cuz when we rarely have favor i get my 55 monk and leave ranger for tombs) , but UW?

how can ranger solo UW?

Havelock · Apr 11, 2006, 02:05 PM // 14:05

I didn't get why you insist on going there as a Tank. Is this your only Character? Even Oro-Farming is much easier without a Warrior as a Tank. And playing Ranger IS fun

. Same goes for Necro btw. And Monk.

nomed · Apr 11, 2006, 02:12 PM // 14:12

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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess

hey! let rangers enjoy the only High end farming place where they are welcome in a team!

Barrage works just as well in FoW you clown.

DoctorEvil · Apr 11, 2006, 02:20 PM // 14:20

Heck, I made it a priority to get a Ranger ascended just so I could go Tomb Raiding with my guildmates

I've been on a few Tombs runs now with my various characters. Taking my Warrior in as a tank with a "balanced" group is by far the slowest run I've ever done taking about 2.5- 3 hour. Taking my Mesmer in a "balanced" group usually took a little around 2-2.5 hours. But I ran with my newly ascended Ranger for the first time this weekend in a B/P group...and it took about 1.5 hours.

Maria The Princess · Apr 11, 2006, 02:22 PM // 14:22

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Originally Posted by nomed

Barrage works just as well in FoW you clown.

first of , whatch how you speak, and with no minions ranger ends up takin aggro and no barrage can save him then.

if you got nothin usefull to say dont post

Skuld · Apr 11, 2006, 02:25 PM // 14:25

Me as prot monk in balanced: 4 hours

Me as ranger/minion master in B/P: 1 1/2 hours

Why would anyone want to do #1? The only people who would do balanced are the ones without ranger, necro or monk (not many)

nomed · Apr 11, 2006, 02:29 PM // 14:29

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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess

if you got nothin usefull to say dont post

Same applies to you. There is no group that can clear FoW faster than a barrage group. The pets are enough to keep the enemies at range long enough to kill. The build has to be changed a bit, but find out about that for yourself.
As soon as you get to the forgemaster in half an hour with another group, let me know.

Maria The Princess · Apr 11, 2006, 02:31 PM // 14:31

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Originally Posted by nomed

Same applies to you. There is no group that can clear FoW faster than a barrage group. The pets are enough to keep the enemies at range long enough to kill. Just take a monk instead of the MM and you are all fine, if the people know how to play.

lol and exactly how many BP groups you find there?
in D1, didnt see a single 1 yet

boxcarracers052 · Apr 11, 2006, 02:31 PM // 14:31

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Originally Posted by Sofonisba

You are correct, tanks are part of a balanced group. However, it's fun and easy to do b/p, which is far from balanced in a traditional sense.

I have to say, when we did start doing Tombs over the first preview weekend, I was monking and we had a balanced group. It. Took. Forever. And not to mention, the warrior (yes a guildie, I like him so he'll forgive me if I say) whined the entire time because he was blind. Monk has to equip half the skill bar just for condition removal. There are no stances or enchantments which can prevent you from being blind, crippled, bleeding over and over and over again from the monsters' Fingers of Chaos. It drove him crazy, drove me crazy.

The axe is very nice. No matter what people say about Tombs nowadays, it is worth having. I'm sure you'll get there someday with a little patience. Or, you could start leveling your monk, necro, or ranger to participate in a b/p group.

Restore Condition ftw.

nomed · Apr 11, 2006, 02:36 PM // 14:36

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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess

lol and exactly how many BP groups you find there?
in D1, didnt see a single 1 yet

People are just realizing it, but our clan has had tremendous success with this build for a while now. Don't even need to bother with other builds, this is just too fast. It's easier than barraging in The Underworld / Hall of Heroes.

You are very limited if you think that just because you see no barrage PuGs it doesn't work, but then again there's many limited people in GW who just go with the river and you are no exception.

Sofonisba · Apr 11, 2006, 02:40 PM // 14:40

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Originally Posted by Skuld

Me as prot monk in balanced: 4 hours

Me as ranger/minion master in B/P: 1 1/2 hours

Why would anyone want to do #1? The only people who would do balanced are the ones without ranger, necro or monk (not many)

And, on the other end... how many times in a balanced group did you get stiffed with no greens/ectos/anything decent after FOUR hours of really hard work? That bites. With a fast-paced group like b/p, it's ok when you don't get anything because there is time enough to take another run.

@ boxcarracer

Yes, great skill

but by the time I bothered to cap RC, we had already moved on to b/p so there was no need. Even with RC, you need one dedicated monk on that tank spamming it. Bleh. No thank you.

.killjoy · Apr 11, 2006, 02:43 PM // 14:43

b/p teams don't let llv 13 pets in the group idk why

Sofonisba · Apr 11, 2006, 02:58 PM // 14:58

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Originally Posted by .killjoy

b/p teams don't let llv 13 pets in the group idk why

When we are forced to take a pug, we don't care if the pet is level 5. If your team is asking you what level your pet is, rather than the level of your FW, you have found a bad team.

The pet is not there to be strong, the pet is there to be Death Nova'd and dead.

(Disclaimer: I love animals!)

Spydergst1 · Apr 11, 2006, 03:09 PM // 15:09

Dude,
You are a warrior/ranger. Build for ranger use a bow and take your pet. Advertise you are built for ranger and you will likely get into a grp.

Big_Iron · Apr 11, 2006, 04:36 PM // 16:36

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Originally Posted by Spydergst1

Dude,
You are a warrior/ranger. Build for ranger use a bow and take your pet. Advertise you are built for ranger and you will likely get into a grp.

While that does sound like a good idea, most B/P groups will see TANK and not include him.

I know that one of the reasons you want to do this is for Victo's Axe, but there is a Barrage group that wants Tanks and that's in FoW. It's what I've been doing recently with my Ranger because I have to admit, as much fun as Tombs was, after doing it few hundred times, it gets old. The Barrage FoW team doesn't take pets. They usually consist of a Tank, 5 Rangers and 2 Monks (at least the ones I've done). It's just the Book Trick reworked. Instead of Nukers and Necros, you have Barrage Rangers that rain down death on the enemies while the Tank gets beat on. The runs I've been on have been very successful and I plan on doing more.

SirAubrey · Apr 11, 2006, 05:17 PM // 17:17

Change secondary to Ranger, bring a pet and res, and spam B/P Warrior LFG.

Then let a ranger pull, you run in and tank once the monsters are in. Also, make sure you body block stairs and choke points.

Dropping a spirit like winter can help, too.

lennymon · Apr 11, 2006, 06:42 PM // 18:42

*ahem* trapping in UW *cough* always we rule there

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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess

hey! let rangers enjoy the only High end farming place where they are welcome in a team!

why nobody takes you? cuz tanks are useless in a BP group and are the first to accumulate 60 dp
we have 5 pets and bone horrors to tank, no place for a Warior, cuz we kik ass so much better then a balanced group.

or join a BALANCED group, which includes Tank, Eles, SS, Monks and somethin else (i never go in balanced groups so im not sure of the exact build), or you can join as a healer into a BP group. use SEARCH to find THE build for Tombs tank

oh yeah....you have 4 character slots for a good reason.

AND this: I'll take a level 3

minion fodder IS the point... plus your pet will be level 12 after first run anyways. heh

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Originally Posted by .killjoy

b/p teams don't let llv 13 pets in the group idk why

Shattered Self · Apr 11, 2006, 06:48 PM // 18:48

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Originally Posted by SirAubrey

Change secondary to Ranger, bring a pet and res, and spam B/P Warrior LFG.

Then let a ranger pull, you run in and tank once the monsters are in. Also, make sure you body block stairs and choke points.

Dropping a spirit like winter can help, too.

How is bringing winter going to do anything other than get you kicked out of a b/p group?

Big_Iron · Apr 11, 2006, 07:53 PM // 19:53

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Originally Posted by Shattered Self

How is bringing winter going to do anything other than get you kicked out of a b/p group?

He's got a point there. You don't need Winter in Tombs.

Maria The Princess · Apr 11, 2006, 08:03 PM // 20:03

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Originally Posted by Shattered Self

How is bringing winter going to do anything other than get you kicked out of a b/p group?

lol never tried..... but i theory might work, cuz all fire damage converts to cold, so meteor shower and burning dont do such damage. and the rangers are suposed to use piercing bows (mot elemntal damage) for Orders to work, so damage comin from us is not cancelled...
spirits you should have are Winowing and Favorable winds

1 problem: any warior, no matter what is his secondary and what he spamms has 0.000009% chance to get into a BP group.

Apr 11, 2006, 02:05 PM // 14:05	#22
Havelock Academy Page Join Date: Feb 2006	I didn't get why you insist on going there as a Tank. Is this your only Character? Even Oro-Farming is much easier without a Warrior as a Tank. And playing Ranger IS fun . Same goes for Necro btw. And Monk.

Apr 11, 2006, 02:20 PM // 14:20	#24
DoctorEvil Academy Page Join Date: Feb 2006	Heck, I made it a priority to get a Ranger ascended just so I could go Tomb Raiding with my guildmates I've been on a few Tombs runs now with my various characters. Taking my Warrior in as a tank with a "balanced" group is by far the slowest run I've ever done taking about 2.5- 3 hour. Taking my Mesmer in a "balanced" group usually took a little around 2-2.5 hours. But I ran with my newly ascended Ranger for the first time this weekend in a B/P group...and it took about 1.5 hours.

Apr 11, 2006, 02:25 PM // 14:25	#26
Skuld Furnace Stoker Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr] Profession: A/	Me as prot monk in balanced: 4 hours Me as ranger/minion master in B/P: 1 1/2 hours Why would anyone want to do #1? The only people who would do balanced are the ones without ranger, necro or monk (not many)

Apr 11, 2006, 02:43 PM // 14:43	#32
.killjoy Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2006 Profession: Mo/Me	b/p teams don't let llv 13 pets in the group idk why

Apr 11, 2006, 03:09 PM // 15:09	#34
Spydergst1 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Chicago Profession: W/R	Dude, You are a warrior/ranger. Build for ranger use a bow and take your pet. Advertise you are built for ranger and you will likely get into a grp.

Apr 11, 2006, 05:17 PM // 17:17	#36
SirAubrey Academy Page Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: Angry Dragons Profession: W/Mo	Change secondary to Ranger, bring a pet and res, and spam B/P Warrior LFG. Then let a ranger pull, you run in and tank once the monsters are in. Also, make sure you body block stairs and choke points. Dropping a spirit like winter can help, too.